2.0 (finally)

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more long rambling about the state of The Protocols™

@JuxGD @eblu i'm still somewhat optimistic for both apub and atproto (and think that both could benefit each other if people weren't so tribalist), both have their pros and cons and i'm tired of people on one side dismissing the other for stupid reasons

yes, at the moment activitypub is the more "decentralized" protocol - and that's great, especially considering the noncommercial nature of much of it! - but a lot of it is still underdeveloped and plagued with compatibility, usability, and safety issues that have existed for years, and the dominant projects have all been quite stagnant with improving things, implementing useful features, and reaching any sort of consensus for a while

if we want to improve what we have here, i feel like the following needs to happen (in terms of organization, not necessarily features):

  • greater communication between devs - this means notifying client/frontend devs when changes are being made on the backend, developers of other backends when your backend makes federation changes, discussion/help regarding how to go about federating certain things, etc.
  • a dedicated space for this communication - it's been very difficult in my experience to find a cohesive space focused on fedi dev, with most attempts so far not really accomplishing the goal very well; i'd imagine something with multiple channels for different projects, protocol areas, potential ideas, and more
  • more community-driven development - both the mastodon and misskey projects have been criticized heavily for their focus on developing for the "flagship" instances, with smaller instances being considered somewhat of an afterthought and concerns largely going unaddressed; it would be nice to see a non-fork project with proper team organization that doesn't have a flagship instance, which should allow more room for development of the software itself instead of having to deal with the difficulty of moderation/sysadmin work and leave plenty of room for community involvement

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so my verdict is this

  • fedi: feels nicer but with a not so great community. super open and I believe that there's a lot of untapped potential
  • bluesky: feels terrible but has some honestly pretty cool technical work under the hood, probably better than activitypub actually. community seems cool but I don't really want to be there
  • tumblr: honestly feels like a great compromise between the two and I like the longer-form-but-still-short format but completely closed off and I've been falling off of it lately. would love to see more people take notes (heh) from it
  • X The Everything App/anything owned by Meta: lmao

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